Episode 064: First Impressions of GIMP 2.6
 
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Just a quick view on GIMP 2.6 – and a new video format (16:9) for “Meet the GIMP!”. Do you like it? There is a poll on the sidebar….

If you have any problems viewing this on your device, please write a comment here. I would love to have more screen estate, but if this collides with your viewing I’ll stick to the old format.

You find the relese notes for GIMP 2.6 at http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html.

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Comments (41)
  1. jgack

    Intro: priceless!!!!
    ..jim

  2. jgack

    Format looks great in vlc for me. It is 852×480, it seems. I like it.
    ..jim

  3. SAL-e

    It works very well in Miro also. I like it

  4. Javier

    I like the new vido format!

  5. Tobias

    I like the 16:9 aspect ratio because more and more monitors and TVs are 16:9 or 16:10. But the 852×480 resolution is a little but unusual. Why no use the standard DVD resolution 720×576 or even better go direct to the HD resolution 1280×720 or “Full HD” 1920×1080. My personal vote would be 1280×720.

    P.S. The intros was really nice.

  6. Tobias

    P.P.S I watch “Meet the GIMP!” on an 24″ Monitor via Miro.

  7. Manuel

    hahah loved the intro!

    personaly, the more resolution the better, specialy considering it’s a podcast for editing images. Don’t know much about what resolution works best on portable devices, but for us viewing it on the computer at least it’s much better :)

    Greetings from Barcelona

  8. Rolf

    1280×720 could be recorded 1:1. This video was recorded at 1062×600 and then shrunken to 852×480.

    There is the question of file sizes, How much larger will a big screen video be?

    DVD format (720×576) has more room than the current 640×480, but around the same aspect ratio,

    Some thininking and testing is needed…. ;-)

  9. Dom W

    This isn’t showing up in iTunes …

  10. Dom W

    Downloaded the MP4 file, plays fine on my Mac in Quicktime but needed to be converted in iSquint before it’d transfer onto an iPod Classic.

  11. Philippe Demartin

    Hi
    Here we gona enter in a problem,
    How can we have the same file providing HD 16:9 optimized for large screens, and also able to be played on an tiny portable multimedia player ????
    The only solution is to have two steam
    Usually the video cast use 640 x 360 for normal viewing, 320 x 180 for portable media, and 1280 x 720 for HD
    I’ve seen 720 x 406 typically AppleTV stream who can be a good compromise but who is more demanding on CPU

    For testing
    320 x 180
    http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.avi/bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/revision3/web/tekzilla/0053/tekzilla–0053–fantasticcontraption–small.xvid.avi

    640 x 360
    http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.avi/bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/revision3/web/tekzilla/0053/tekzilla–0053–fantasticcontraption–large.xvid.avi

    1280 x 720
    http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp4/bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/revision3/web/tekzilla/0053/tekzilla–0053–fantasticcontraption–hd.h264.mp4

    720 x 406
    http://feeds.lifechurch.tv/~r/LifechurchtvMessageSeriesappleTv/~3/387843480/YDHWIT_1_Message_ATV.mp4

  12. Rolf

    I’ll do a test – recording in 1280 and publishing in 1280×720 and 640×360.

  13. Inkscaper

    I’m very disapointed that Gimp interface is still kinda BSDM… This soundtrack would fit better as intro :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm85e9oDDJo

  14. skerit

    Not talking about the show, but about GIMP itself: could something be done about this new freehand selection tool?

    How can they still call it the “freehand selection tool” after how they butchered it? I agree it can be extremely useful in certain situations, but now it’s annoying me and breaking my productivity. Very typical of them to not to include an option for this …

  15. jgack

    @skerit — perhaps I don’t understand what is bothering you, but to me it seems that the tool can still be used as before, but now can also be used to do additional useful things. I do see that the auto-closure on mouse-up seems to be lost — is that what you dislike?

    On the video format, I guess the costs of higher res include storage and bandwidth, as well as possible difficulties for users with smaller screens. IMO, highest possible resolution gives diminishing returns to the tutorial value. I was never disappointed with the old 640×480. Simply adding 20% to the wiodth does seem that it allows more freedom in showing dialogs, tool options, etc. We should get more feedback from people having small screen devices.

    ..jim

  16. Manfred

    The new video format is most welcome! it plays well in Miro on a Mac and it feels much better than the old one. Regarding The GIMP. I was glad to read about the new GEGL mode. I was wondering the last years, why The GIMP does not switch to 16 bit mode or to floating point manipulation. I hope the GEGL mode will make things much better and I’m looking forward to see it on your show. As Mac User I have to wait a ‘while’ to get hold of The GIMP 2.6, but as I store my images as untouched originals since years, I have no problem waiting for The GIMP 2.6 for Mac.

  17. ubuntu user

    is it possible to make the image window always on the background ?

    p.s
    you can make the fonts much more readable by using this tip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIIi7olcuRw

  18. jgack

    One thing I didn’t understand was the purpose/funtion of the “Use GEGL” checkbox on the Colors menu. The chackbox implies that GEGL is somehow still considered somewhat tentative .. maybe?

    Does it mean that GEGL is *only* used when checked, and that otherwise all internals still use the old non-GEGL compositing (etc) code? If that is the case, are the developers looking for specific feedback from the user community about GEGL use?

    Anybody know about this?
    .jim

  19. Tobias

    @ubuntu
    1. It depends on your Window-Manager/OS

    2. The Video is scaled, so the fonds can’t be very good.

  20. Grant

    At first I think the video was bad, then I heard the music, perfect just perfect. :)

  21. Rolf

    … but what will I do in half a year (I hope), when 2.8 is released (I hope again) with (and again…) a lot of really cool features for us users… ;-)

  22. David Gowers

    @skerit — I find the old and new free-select pretty similar to work with, providing you hover over enter with your non-mouse hand; then it’s basically the difference between:

    Selecting a single freehand area in one stroke:
    Old:
    New: , or ( then Enter)

    Selecting multiple freehand areas consecutively:
    Old: , …
    New: ,… or (<drag then Enter),…

    Selecting polygonal areas:
    Old: Impossible
    New: ,…, Enter (or click on initial point)

    Adjusting polygonal or freehand strokes making up a freehand selection:
    Old: Impossible
    New: (or CTRL+

    Make a freehand selection with multiple strokes:
    Old: Impossible
    New: ,…

    Delete a misformed stroke in a freehand selection:
    Old: Impossible
    New:

  23. Brun

    Thank you for you work.
    If you can not deny : http://sf.nung.edu.ua/index.php?showtopic=1687

  24. Rolf

    I made a mistake in publishing the video – it should turn up in iTunes soon. At least I hope it does. ;-)

  25. ubuntu user

    @Tobias

    1. I’m using ubuntu :)

    2. it still help’s

    p.s
    if you want CMYK install this Plug
    http://registry.gimp.org/node/471

  26. jgack

    Rolf-
    planning ahead: What comes after the usual[1] Zarathustra?
    SuperiorZarathustra
    LargeZara..
    ExtraLargeZ..
    Jumbo~
    ExtraJumbo~
    Giant
    Colossal
    SuperColossal
    Mammoth
    SuperMammoth
    So.., do you have any composing skills?

    [1] ref: http://www.sizes.com/food/olives.htm
    [2] or if you don’t like olives, maybe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefixes

    ..jim

  27. Rolf

    Of course “Meet the GIMP!” has a Composer in Residence! I’ll ask John Pazdan

    Thanks for the tip! The Olive site is hilarious. :-)

  28. Sue

    I have no idea what the problem is but I installed 2.6 last night and it opens the same way my 2.4 did. The UI looks nothing like the screencaps I’ve seen but the menu bar options are like what I’ve read about the new version. Any ideas on why it’s not opening like the screenshots?

  29. Rolf

    Perhaps you have a parallel install of 2.4 and 2.6? What does the version number in Help/About say?

    And what OS are you using?

  30. Andreas

    using itunes on windows and MTG064 crashes at first … restarting and then it runs perfectly…

    i like the 16:9-format

  31. Sue

    I’m running windows so that may have something to do with it, not sure. I did a custom install and typed 2.6 like I had read about on a gimp forum. I looked and I still have my 2.4.6 in my program files but it doesn’t show up to start. And the Help/About says 2.6. Now I’m afraid if I uninstall 2.6 I’ll lose even the old.

  32. rico

    for those who can’t get the tool boxes over the image event when the windows are set to utility windows in ubuntu, turn off compiz (system>preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects>none), then the windows will stick on top of the image window.
    (if you really miss visual effects use metacity instead of compiz, type in terminat “gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager true –type=bool” without the quotes)

  33. w_nightshade

    http://meetthegimp.org/episode-064-first-impressions-of-gimp-26/#comment-37343

    I have a similar problem – the new episode was not transferred to my iPod video (5G), as it could not “play on this device”. I had to use iTunes to convert to iPod version to work. Bleagh.

  34. Rolf

    @Sue: What happens if you explicitly start gimp-2.6.exe?

  35. Flo

    The new format is better than the old one!

  36. Roy

    I like the new video format, but it does require a reformat to load to ipod nano. A minor issue for having such a great resource.

    thanks for your podcast Rolf

  37. Nick

    I like the new format much better than the old one. I like the ability to see your toolbox at the same time as the current project you are working on.

  38. flrt

    Great intro!

    16:9 is much cooler than 4:3. Please continue using it.

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  41. Pascal de Bruijn

    I like the fact that Meet The GIMP is distributed in a small format. It keeps size down. And it makes it compatible with hardware video players. Devices like the iPod video come to mind.

    I own a LaCie LaCinema Premier harddisk video player, which seems capable of players the MP4 files just fine. Somehow I can’t fastforward or rewind, but that’s not much of a problem.

    The new 16:9 format works on the LaCinema device as well. On my old 4:3 TV, this means I get black bars, and the letters get smaller and harder to read. Which isn’t very nice.

    So my personal preference would be to stick with 4:3. Of course I’m not your only viewer. So I would very well understand the switch to 16:9.

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